Marketing and Potbellied Pigs? Video Conferencing Would Have Saved A Big Chunk of the Budget!

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Video Conferencing and Potbellied Pigs

Would video conferencing have helped us?

You may ask yourself how a story about a potbellied pig association has anything to do with marketing or video conferencing? Everything! This particular potbellied pig entity was developed, organized, and functioned as a corporation (non-profit) which included all the legalities, regulations, responsibilities, and accountability that any corporation has.  It had a monthly newsletter, logo, branding, recruitment, sales, branches etc.

I want to share one part of my past inspiring and productive times of my life. It was a landmark creation, proving my entrepreneurship. It is an entity which reminds me of my capability as an entrepreneur and the experience supports my efforts of continuously moving forward. The effort to create an entity as this at that time  was a tremendous accomplishment. I’ll save that for a future post!

This is a true story about two women who had a dream and created an entity out of nothing.  In 1992, I was a potbellied pig enthusiast turned business woman! I had a dream about establishing a potbellied pig registry service and so be it, I created the National Committees On Potbellied Pigs. NCOPP was established in February, 1992  (I say born because that what if felt like). I have a lifetime friend named Karen who buddied with me at the time and together we took the NCOPP concept and created a registry service from non-existence to existence.  The registry creation was the hard part because that addition weaved money into the entity. At the time there were 2 other services going so a third was a threat. There was a lot of obstacles to overcome in order to reach the dream.

It didn’t seem that the other 2 had missions that matched what we believed was more beneficial to the potbellies and to the honest breeders who’s hearts were in the industry for the betterment of the breed. We leaned towards education, training, and showing rather than profit.

To make a long story, short, our dream got off the ground and grew into a non-profit organization comprised of a Board of Directors from throughout the United States. NOCPP established policies and procedures, potbellied pig registry standards, scorecards, color standards, a permanent champion program, judging standards etc.  At its peak, NCOPP sanctioned over 40 shows! It was robust, active, and honest and its basic mission was to preserve and protect the potbellied pig.

I was Executive Secretary of the Association, by choice. I had the option to be the an Executive Director, however it was for the betterment of the association to take a neutral position with no voting power. Reflecting back, I made the right choice. We conducted quarterly Director meetings. As I recall, email was just catching on! What else did not exist? Yahoo, You Tube, Facebook, Twitter…you get the picture. Basically the calls included 10 Board of Director members via telephone conferencing which, at that time cost a chunk of our budget to hook up to ten people! We recorded minutes, and the President conducted a majority of the meetings, however with great dependence upon my opinion! In addition to quarterly telephone conferences, we did a lot of traveling which included air fare, hotel, food, and business expenses for everyone!

Video Conferencing Would Have Helped Us A Lot!

This past week I have been video conferencing with partners and I couldn’t help but wonder how much easier it would have been for our potbellied pig association to conduct our meetings if we had the technology of video conferencing then! It would have saved a lot of money and we could have reduced the amount of travel expenses throughout the years.

I found the most awesome video conferencing web site for FREE! I don’t get commissions for sharing. I want to introduce it to you because I have tried many video conferencing tool and software, paid and free and this one is by far the best I’ve used:

http://raenalynn.com/meeting burner

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Definition: Video conferencing is a product of interactive telecommunication technologies. It is a breakthrough in the world of communications as it allows users to keep in touch while being in different locations with the help of audio transmissions and a two-way video. It is an excellent example of groupware and can also be dubbed as visual collaboration. Video conferencing is best suited for a conference rather then individual use.

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48 thoughts on “Marketing and Potbellied Pigs? Video Conferencing Would Have Saved A Big Chunk of the Budget!

  1. Hello Raena,

    Seems like you had to persevere to make your dream a reality.

    I can remember my journey on this wonderful road of entrepreneurship.

    I’ve spent and lost lots of money, spent countless hours of energy going to meetings, printing out flyers, passing them out along with business cards, etc…

    Running newspapper ads, doing whatever was necessary to try and grow myself and my business venture.

    Many people would probably call folk like us crazy, going after a dream.

    Thank God for modern day technology though, it certainly can help speed up the whole process.

    My fear though is, it may take away the human contact element from our marketing, if we let it.

    Thanks for sharing your experience and journey to something near and dear to you.
    Cheers

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Willie,

      Thank you for your comments. I, along with many others had the perseverance to make our dream a reality. I created the name, but the dream was fulfilled by the collaboration, leadership, brainstorming, conferencing and networking to make it a reality. I wanted to share this story with my fellow colleges so they can get a little peek into my past and to illustrate that going after a dream works. Anyone can fulfill a dream if they set their mind to it and do it. We can never forget words of Napoleon Hill, “Whatever your mind can conceive and believe it can achieve.”

      I must comment on your statement, “My fear though is, it may take away the human contact element from our marketing, if we let it.” I agree, if we let it. I used to think that, however I’m discovering that I feel closer to people in a different way by using social media platforms. It’s always best to meet in person, and corporations may use the technology, but they do recognize the importance human contact so they continue to have their seminars, conventions, meetings etc. Today’s technology helps to reduce the number of these meeting because maintaining connection is easier between physical contact and is more cost effective.

      Thanks for coming by,
      Raena Lynn

  2. Hello Raena

    Thanks for sharing a past inspiring and productive times of your life. When people like you share their story it help others to see what a dream can accomplish. More important to me is how you don’t just look at what you have accomplished, you are now asking how can new technology help. Technology makes this an exciting time to be a live.

    Perry A Davis Jr
    Music City USA

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Perry,

      Thanks for your comments. That was a wonderful, productive, viable time of my life. I hope people understand why I tied in a potbellied pig registry service and compared it to marketing.

      What is funny and interesting to me is that at that time any little new advance in technology was just as exciting to us as advances are released today! The fact that everything today is encourages and more enticing to more and more people. The internet technology which includes Facebook, Twitter, Skype, YouTube, Photo Bucket, Video email, video conferencing etc. is less expensive, more accessible, and more “user friendly.” As time progresses a majority of our society will be plugged in. I see the internet still in its infancy.

      Thank you for your visit!

      Raena Lynn

  3. David says:

    That’s a great story Raena. Video conferencing has certainly changed our world for the better.

    David

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi David,
      Good to see you. Once you fulfill dream, then you know that you have the capability to do it again. I’m glad you liked my story. I want to tell you thank you for being a mastermind partner program partner! You really inspired me to get going with video and I really enjoy watching yours. I’m doing my best to get around to all of them, and I will. I’ve seen many of them, but I know I’m a bit behind, but may I assure you that I will get to all of them. It’s difficult to get around to 6 people doing 30 videos!! Ya think? haha

      Anyway, I’m glad to see that you came by.

      Raena Lynn

      1. David says:

        Yes, I’m way behind watching everyone’s videos as well, and more people are taking up the video challenge every day!

  4. Beth Allen says:

    Thanks for sharing your story, Raena Lynn, pot-bellied pigs are so cute, I love it! This is a perfect example of what happens when you follow your passion. You persevere through obstacles that would stop those less passionate, and you end up creating amazing things! Ah the life of an entrepreneur. 🙂

    And it definitely sounds like the video conferencing that you’re now experiencing would have been quite a time, money and productivity saver for you guys! Very cool.

    Thanks again for your inspiring story!

  5. Yasser Khan says:

    Yes Raena,

    Technology is definitely an indispensable tool in everyday applications. It would benefit everybody greatly to realise that tech is a double-edged sword; It can cut both ways.

    Teleconferencing could get sidetracked by personal calls; FB marketing gets sidelined by Farmville; Twitter gets relegated to obsessing over followers; YouTube gets derailed to checking video views and responses, and so on.

    Convenient as it is, it carries within it the seeds of chaos as well. The difference is made up with discipline.

    Yasser

  6. Linda G. Cox says:

    Raena,
    Potbellied pigs are wild! I’m impressed that you did so much work for the cause of potbellied pigs! It crack me up until I scrolled back up and saw the pictures of the pigs!

    Of course I totally agree with you about the conference calls and iWowWe!

    Linda

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Linda,

      Thanks for stopping by. I’m looking forward to working with you! These are exciting times!

      Raena Lynn

  7. Hey Raena,

    It’s crazy how far technology has advanced so quickly, I BET you would have liked this software when you were doing those conferences. It would also cost a very small fraction of the price, practically inexpensive (free, if you know where to look).

    Brandon Wraith
    Knowledge is POWER

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Brandon,

      It would have been much less expensive, more convenient, and a lot more user friendly. We held 4 quarterly telephone conference meetings a year plus several in between and yes, your BET is right!

      Raena Lynn

  8. Hey Raena,

    What a wonderful story! Congratulations on your impressive achievement – I’ll bet you and Karen really learned a LOT in the process of making your dream come true. I confess, I’ve only ever seen one pot bellied pig (outside of photos) in my life. A tourist shop owner on the west end of the island in Lahaina Town keeps his pot bellied pig (wearing a silk lei mind you) at the door of this shop to attract tourists – I have mixed feelings about that – but the point is that little pig is a real cutie.

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Marquita,

      Thanks for being my #1 commentator! I really appreciate your support. It takes a lot of time and effort to syndicate properly by posting sincerely and with thought. I always appreciate your comments! Let me clear something. I love potbellied pigs, but just like any other animal, some are cute and some are, well let’s just say lacking in appearance! I know what you mean about having mixed feelings about the piggie in Lahaina Town. As time progressed, it was difficult to watch any type of exploitation with the piggies. Unfortunately breederss became greedy and systematically ruined the breed. They are just a novelty now, but believe me they had their day in the spotlight.

      The main reason for their existing status of being tourist attractions and petting zoo animals is because some breeders were not honest about how big a potbellied pig would get and they presented a false perception that they were “miniature.” They are miniature compared to a regular pig, (220 pounds at 3 years of age compared to 1200 to1500 pounds at 3 years of age for regular pigs) but not as small as a pitcher! People purchased them as pets and a whole set of problems came with that. The goal of our association at that time was to educate and eliminate exploitation. We did the best we could:) Thanks for your visit!

      Raena Lynn

  9. Raena, hello what a fun and informative post!

    Whilst I have never has the pleasure of seeing a PotBellied Pig my friends here in France Stephane and his wife Zaza are farmers both pigs and cows they produce happy pigs and cows all their meat if for the organic market and the fields where the animals roam are really very beautiful!

    Videoconferencing is something I have experience in though and it saves us a fortune in both time and travel cost every year. I can’t speak highly enough of the benefits of videoconferencing especially these days when we all ought to take a more environmentally friendly approach to doing business.

    Have a great end to the week and thanks again for the fun shared in the post

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Sadie,

      I appreciate your comments. It gives me picture of rolling hills in France speckled with piggies and cows against a green backdrop. I agree, roaming livestock is a beautiful thing. It reminds me when my daughters were little, every time we traveled and saw a sea of cattle, or sheep, or horses, I would always point them out and teach my girls the breed and gender. For example, I would say, “Look at the Hereford steers!” Being an aggie at heart, I always notice livestock, and I always make a point to share what I notice to whoever is with me. I’m sure my girls started to roll their eyes by the time they were teens. “Yes mom, we know, Hereford steers.”
      The potbellied pigs originated in Viet Nam and were imported by a man named Mike Connell in 1980. They are used for meat in Viet Nam, but are officially considered “pets or companion animals in the United States.”

      Just my opinion, video conferencing is great when there are no technical difficulties! Thanks for

      Raena Lynn

  10. I love to read stories of real people who had a dream, worked hard at it and then it became a reality. Normally most of what I read I think is fictional. You achieved wonderful things with your pot bellied pig project.

    Now on to your new project, video conferencing. If you have the same belief and put the same amount of effort into it, that will be a winner for you as well.

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Trever,

      We have good days, and bad days. Sometime we feel beaten down, and we have doubts. You stated your point so well. “I like to read stories of real people who had a dream, worked hard at it and then it became a reality.” Basically in a nutshell, your right on target. That is the end result after all of the forging, determination, sweat, and never giving up is forgotten. This story is a great one for me to keep in my mind as a reference whenever I experience a day with doubt or negativity. The great think is I’m having less and less of those days! I hope you are too and I wish you great prosperity! Thanks for stopping by!

      Raena Lynn

  11. Ben says:

    Thanks for an inspiring story Raena.
    I think everybody dreams of the day when they can take their hobby/something they love and turn it onto a income.
    Waiting for your next post
    Ben

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Ben,

      At least I can say I did it! It was a business turned into non-profit organization. Thanks for coming by.

      Raena Lynn

  12. Keith Davis says:

    Hi Raena
    Never done video conferencing but as you point out, it could save lots of money.

    I belong to the ASC (Association of Speakers Clubs) who have an AGM every year.
    Costs an absolute fortune in travel and hotel bills.
    Video conferencing could be just the thing.

    BTW – came over from Vernessa’s site via her link…

    WINNER ANNOUNCED
    We have a winner! Congratulations to Raena Lynn who won the big prize at the end of the CommentLuv Launch. Go show her some LUV!

    Well done.

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Keith,

      I’m glad you came by! Video conferencing has a lot of advantages and benefits. You may want to consider conferencing as an option. How many people are in your organization? I admire anyone who can participate in a speakers club! Impressive. I’ll be happy to visit Vanessa’s site and yours. Thanks for the congratulations. It was awesome to be the winner!

      Raena Lynn

  13. James
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    Raena,

    Great story about your history and where you have been before.
    What’s amazing is that people still complain about things being too hard to make things happen when we have technologies like video conferencing, etc. Now, with the tools found on the internet, almost anyone can accomplish similar success stories if they choose too.

    Thanks for sharing….

    Best,
    James

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi James,

      The main thing that brought me back is the technology. I love it and it is really making a big difference. I agree. It is a matter of learning, appliying, practicing, getting coaching, support, and never giving up. There is no excuse.

      Raena Lynn

  14. Hi Raena!

    What a refreshing story! I love it! I actually remember that time back in the 90’s when potbelly pigs were all the rage for pets. They were everywhere. I can see why you wanted to go in the direction you did at that time. I can also remember the limitations we had back then online. I think we had aol maybe, and possibly chat? So having a tool like video conferencing would be like a dream!! Technology is certainly making our business live so much more productive like you say. I just love how you found such a creative topic to share this subject!

    Thanks again..

    Laura Morris

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Laura,

      Yes, I remember those times well. It took Connell 10 years to get them imported into Canada first. He started with 16 all black, Vietnamese potbellied pigs. The span of the mania started in 1980 and shorted out around the mid-nineties. Regardless, it was an amazing experience at the time. Yes it would have been much more efficient if we had video conferencing at that time. I appreciate that you enjoyed the post. Come back soon!

      Raena Lynn

  15. Buddy Hodges says:

    Video conferencing can help to alleviate several of the world’s biggest problems:

    depletion of fossil fuel reserves

    air pollution from burning fuels for transportation

    limited communication with fellow travelers on “spaceship earth”

    limited time and money for traveling

    Compared with the telephone, video conferencing provides non-verbal communication such as body language, which is often more expressive than words

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Buddy,

      Wow putting it into a global perspective is brilliant. Our planet is getting smaller and smaller with the new technology. It is more valueable to experience video, rather than just audio. That is a great point, especially in business!

      Thanks for stopping by.
      Raena Lynn

  16. Raena Lynn
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    Hi Maggie,

    Hello again! I’m really glad you liked it. It’s time to create another dream!

    Raena Lynn

  17. Raena,

    This is to the core of visualization skills. You had a thought which was a dream. Your friend and self. Started to complete due-diligence in the subject matter.

    Went through one person and office to get things done day by day. Then after all said and done. Your determination to have that dream manifest came to be reality. All from a dream. The how is not our job. They why is plane in view which started with a dream and manifest into a hunger that was driving that unstoppable force within.

    Well, done Raena. I love this story and it inspires me and others to stop a wait for nothing. The how will come along the way. Just start the process and never stop until the end result is success as you determined it to be.

    Good for you. I look forward in visiting real soon. You have energized this reader. I thank you very much. Please, keep sharing in your unique fashion.

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi William,

      I feel so proud when you come around and comment on my posts. You are so complimentary and your dedication makes the entire process worth all of the effort. You obviously recognize a person’s vision and the importance of how it feels to follow through without questing the how. You are so right. At the time I was pursuing this dream, there was no question about the how. It wasn’t an issue because the desire was so strong, and the work demanded a lot of time (wonderful, passionate , satisfying time and effort), there wasn’t an iota of a window of opportunity to question the how.

      When you said, “Just start the process and never stop until the end result is success as you determined it to be,” sums up the entire process. I’m glad that you are back and healthy and with us again!

      Raena Lynn

  18. Marc Korn says:

    Hi Raena,

    Thanks for sharing this wonderful story of perseverance and persistence. You had a dream and because of your passion and focus, you turned it into a reality.

    That is such a great lesson for many who give up as soon as they run into a roadblock or two. You had that entrepreneurial spirit..

    If we stay focused on the task at hand, technology is a wonderful time, energy and money saver.

    Back in 2003, I had a dream of starting my own e-commerce business and started to conduct my due diligence. There was much that had to be done, but if you follow a plan, take it a step at a time, it WILL get done. You just need to be persistent and consistent.

    I did everything myself from A-Z, including contacting a bunch of potential vendors, registering the business and the business name, finding merchant processors, researching the best e-commerce platform, designing the website, creating the spreadsheets to upload all the product information to the website, integrating systems and so much more.

    But, when all was said and done, I felt like I had a major accomplishment in my life.

    To your continued success,
    Marc

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Marc,
      After reading your comments, I realize that you can relate to what I did to make a dream come true. I understand you A-Z list! Back in those days, I learned HTML 1.0 to create the organizations web site. It takes a ton of determination and strength to follow through with the materialization of a dream. It makes me realize that so few people experience the feeling of making their dream come true. I’m on my way to make another one happen!

      Raena Lynn

  19. What a great story of true Entrepreneurism – finding a need and filling it. Years ago I started a non-profit and it was a lot of work. Like you, it felt like a new baby was born. Over the years I have started many new ventures and while they have been a labor of love, it has been well worth it.

    It is because of those of us who believe in a cause that so many organizations are formed that help people and animals around the world. While this was a fun story, there was a moral to the story that I took away – believe in what you do, do what you love and even if others might think the topic our of their realm, you will find kindred spirits to serve.

    Very cool.

    VaNessa

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi VaNessa,

      Thanks for your commentary. I love what you said at the end, “believe in what you do, do what you love and even if others might think the topic out of their realm, you will find kindred spirits to serve.” Yes, animals are kindred spirits.

      Raena Lynn

  20. Clare
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    Hi Raena,
    I think about my son when I think of pot-bellied pigs because he would absolutely love to have one as a member of our family! As I grow my business, perhaps we will when we get some land!
    video conferencing is awesome – bringing people close together and more connected.
    I run a mastermind group so it would be awesome for us to be able to mastermind via video rather than audio.

    Blessings
    Clare

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Clare,

      Potbellied Pigs are cute and they do much better outside. Raising them indoors is wrong. When they are full grown at 2 to 3 years of age, the minimum weight is about 210 pounds, unless they are not fed properly. They are actually happier outside and are more content if they have a piggy buddy. That removes any territorial problems. Overall, they are a blast to have around:)

      Video conferencing is great. I would be happy to show you how it works. Let me know and I can set up a meeting between you and me in less than 5 minutes. Just pick a day and time that works for you. By the way, last week was my first time I visited your blog. It is total high content! I don’t know why I haven’t seen you before. It may have been because of the block party and/or the fact that we are in the same group.

      Talk to you later:)
      Raena Lynn

  21. Tony Tate says:

    What a great story Raena! What an impressive past you have in growing your organization up from nothing. You are absolutely right, how much easier it would have been with video conferencing or even just a small amount of the technology we have today. Thank you for sharing your story.
    Tony Tate

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Tony,
      Thanks! I sure had a lot of energy then! The technology that we enjoy today would have been great to have but again, we used the “cutting edge” technology for it’s time. thanks for stopping by.

      Raena Lynn

  22. Hans Schoff says:

    Hey Raena, great story. Everything is so easy today in comparison to what used to be necessary to run or grow a business, right? I remember when I got my first cell phone – what a revolution that was! Now I know many people who no longer even have a landline (that term will die out soon) and wouldn’t be caught without their cell phone now today.

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Hans,

      I hope all is well with you. Technology is moving forward so quickly and I agree that it is easier to run our businesses. We are very fortunate to live in these times. I remember when Skype came out and everyone went crazy over it. Now it is almost common place. Video conferencing will soon become the main means of communication. Thanks for stopping by.

      Raena Lynn

  23. Kevin DeRoo
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    Hey Raena,

    Thanks for sharing your personal story of success, that’s awesome!

    I agree that video communication through phone, email, and video conferencing is without a doubt bringing people from around the world closer together both in business and also in personal life.

    It no longer is is necessary to take those expensive business trips costing companies sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars figuring in hotel, food, transportation, flight and other miscellaneous expenses. Today you can have your board members from all over the world meet in one location without stepping foot on a plane and spending a single penny on overnight accommodation.

    Just a quick question with regards to the NCOPP Raena, it sounds like the organization is no longer is active … what may I ask became of it?

    Kevin

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Keven,

      All of your points are valid and make a lot of sense. Just because the technology is here doesn’t mean that we never have to physically meet. But it gives us an opportunity to whittle down the amount of meetings at physical locations such as seminars and conventions.

      As to your question about NCOPP, I believe it still exists but I would guess at a voluntary level. When people realized they couldn’t make enough money from the piggies, many of them abandoned their responsibilities of maintaining the organization. It amazed me that if I google NCOPP, my name comes up on some of the old NCOPP pages I created in the 80”s. Pigs are too prolific. A capitalistic society runs on supply and demand. When the supply became saturated, the demand went down. That is the explanation in as simplistic as I can present it. Thanks for stopping by.

      Raena Lynn

  24. Dereck says:

    Raena,

    What an awesome story. You truly had be captivated and I loved it.

    But I agree with you on the thought of how much easier modern technology has made our lives all that much easier.

    Now, you can host a webinar meeting with hundreds of people around the world. Now, it’s more affordable for the masses to engage on a phone bridge.

    I simply love where we’re going and it only excites me to know that there’s more to come.

    Thanks for the story, what an accomplishment.

    -Dereck

  25. Mattgeib says:

    Raena:

    What a wonderful & different story to illustrate the Power we all possess as entrepreneurs,,,,So great to be able to take your passion & build it into a Business. Wonderful example of Patience, Persistence, & making your Dream a reality.

    Be Blessed
    Matt Geib

    1. Raena Lynn
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      Hi Matt,
      Thanks for stopping by. As I have said before, if I did it once, I can do it again. I’ll keep you posted:)

      Raena Lynn

  26. Hi Raena,

    I’m fortunate to stick around at your side to even learn about the NCOPP from your past. This sounds as it was much fun and as well much work… I’m sure all the experience you made there together with KAREN helps you now to succeed here online. I can confirm without video conferencing being able to connect and stay TOGETHER with the team would be impossible.

    Thx for sharing this story and look forward to have you as well soon on one of our calls!

    All the best,

    Alex

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